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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: peribahasa, simpulan bahasa, bidalan, pepatah or perumpamaan Reply with quote

I'll attempt to translate of the the gems into english in this thread.

Malay proverbs which fall readily into such main categories as peribahasa (normally cast as a complete sentence), simpulan bahasa (usually with two words), bidalan (which take the form of abstract statements), pepatah (comprising traditional sayings from folklore), perbilangan (making use of specific observations from everyday experience) and perumpamaan (otherwise termed metaphorical phrases). Every peribahasa, simpulan bahasa, bidalan, pepatah and perumpama is rooted in an individual’s life experience, perspective and understanding of a problem, and includes a reaction that may benefit members of the community.

http://www.penerbit.ukm.my/sari22-08.pdf

Peribahasa

Ada angin ada pohonnya.
ertinya
Segala yang terjadi ada sebab-sebabnya.

There is wind there is trees
meaning
Everything that happens there must be reasons to it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ada bangkai adalah kering.
ertinya
Ada perempuan jahat di situlah juga terdapat lelaki jahat.

There is carcase there is dryness
meaning
when there are loose women there flocks bad men.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ada batang mati, adalah cendawan timbul.
ertinya
Walau di mana kita tinggal, akan ada rezeki kita.

On Dead logs, thrives muchrooms
meaning
Wherever we stay there will be a living for us.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are some really esoteric connections there, obmar.

The mushrooms on dead logs I can kinda see, but wind and trees are way beyond me.

That kinda sounds like:

Death and taxes

Meaning,

you're gonna die.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peribahasa are taught and the cultured ones knew the meanings and when to use them.

it is ignored by many now...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ada beras taruh dalam peti, ada ingat taruh dalam hati.
ertinya
Rahsia hendaklah disimpan dengan sebaik-baiknya.

If you have rice save it in containers, if you remember put it in your heart.
meaning
Secrets must be preserved with care.


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