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Radiate_Truth
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| Harris Brio wrote: | | Radiate_Truth wrote: | Thank you!!!
Gonna start taking and keeping notes...
The 72 virgins, never heard of it concerning 9/11.
The forums I have frequented associate the 72 virgin myth with the suicide bombers of the Middle East, about the time of the Israel security wall was is still being built. I haven't done any research on it but would you not say or agree that Israel gets the majority of suicide bombings or is it cause I'm more focused on Israel than any other country??? |
The 72 virgin myth was perpretated by the Israelis. |
Shall I bow for your royal highness, now that you are good enough to come join us again, Harris...
What do you think they are stupid or something, helping a suicide bomber kill off their own kind???
Israelis, Jews, Zionists aren't gonna walk up to a suicide bomber or bribe them, telling him / her if you kill yourself and others including Jews, Israelis and Zionists at such and such time, date, at such and such place you will be rewarded heaven with 72 virgins or angels.
| Quote: | It's very simple. The female circumsicion story came out of Israel after the Israelis took Ethipoian Jews from Ethopia giving them a full medical exam they discovered the females had been circumsiced. This was a money bag discovery for the Israelis. They in turn stated it was Muslims all over the Islamic world who carried out this criminal behaviour...
Muslims all over the world informed the Western media that this practise was carried out mostly in Central Eastern Africa, more notebly Somalia and Ethopia. Somalia is 99% Muslim and Ethiopia is 90% Christian. Western media does not really care about facts they are interested in what sells. |
Circumcising young girls is a practice that dates back beyond anyone's memory in Kenya. Even though the Kenyan government recently banned the practice, parents are still risking jail terms and heavy fines to put their daughters through this rite of passage. More than a third of women in Kenya between the ages of 15 and 49 have been subjected to some form of genital circumcision. It has always been a tradition that has been difficult to eradicate.
| Quote: | The Western media is also a tool of the Israelis, without question...
72 Virgin story is simple hype. The Jordanian man weho killed his daughter becuase she was not a virgin was Christian. They story played for days in the West, until it was found out he was a Christian, then the story simply disappeared...
The Christians protray Islam as an evil ideology. Atheists protray all religions as evil, Jews protray both Islam and Christianity as evil. Christians, Muslims and Jews protray Atheism as evil. This is how beliefs are bought and sold, everyone is a salesman for their beliefs... |
You are so full of chutzpah, Harris...
Israelis, Jews, Zionism don't rule the world, media or anything else any more than the voices in your thick skull. The Arabs won't let them.
That is a personal choice we make individually. Being a certain religion has nothing whatsoever to do how we see certain individuals. My religious beliefs does not have any effect whatsoever nor does it tell me how I feel toward or about Obmar and you as Muslims.
How we or how you personally treat each other, me as a human being, that is what helps me decide whether I like you or not...
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obmar
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: |
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One day someone will rise
and ask
if circumscice is such a big issue
is there anything on it in the Holy Books.
is there, Harry? |
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Harris Brio
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Radiate_Truth wrote: | Shall I bow for your royal highness, now that you are good enough to come join us again, Harris...
What do you think they are stupid or something, helping a suicide bomber kill off their own kind???
Israelis, Jews, Zionists aren't gonna walk up to a suicide bomber or bribe them, telling him / her if you kill yourself and others including Jews, Israelis and Zionists at such and such time, date, at such and such place you will be rewarded heaven with 72 virgins or angels. |
It was very kind of you to welcome back in such a loving manner...
Anyways...
No the Israeli did not tell the Palestinians this as no Palestinian would be stupid enough to think an Israeli knows more about Islam and the Quran than they do. This virgin myth was spread by Israelis to the West as the reason to why Palestinians are fighting for their land...
| Radiate_Truth wrote: |
Circumcising young girls is a practice that dates back beyond anyone's memory in Kenya. Even though the Kenyan government recently banned the practice, parents are still risking jail terms and heavy fines to put their daughters through this rite of passage. More than a third of women in Kenya between the ages of 15 and 49 have been subjected to some form of genital circumcision. It has always been a tradition that has been difficult to eradicate. |
And what have I said that contridicts what you are saying?...
| Radiate_Truth wrote: |
You are so full of chutzpah, Harris...
Israelis, Jews, Zionism don't rule the world, media or anything else any more than the voices in your thick skull. The Arabs won't let them. |
Again where did I say the Israelis rule the entire universe? The Arabs are learning it as well. Al Jazeera is not far from becoming CNN or Fox News. Why defensive throwback when one states Israelis are using the Western media as a propoganda tool. The Western leaders themselves use the media as an propoganda tool. My only fear is when our media stops being used by outside influences. This will only indicate no one cares what Americans think. Won't be long though, the shift of not caring what and how we think is coming soon... Very soon...
| Radiate_Truth wrote: |
That is a personal choice we make individually. Being a certain religion has nothing whatsoever to do how we see certain individuals. My religious beliefs does not have any effect whatsoever nor does it tell me how I feel toward or about Obmar and you as Muslims. |
It does... It's subliminal. Would you ask me to sit down and share a pork sandwhich with you? No you wouldn't because you know I'm Muslim. I would not speak my family's language in front of you, knowing you do not understand what I'm saying...
| Radiate_Truth wrote: |
How we or how you personally treat each other, me as a human being, that is what helps me decide whether I like you or not... |
Then you should no problem with why Palestinians don't like Israelis based on how Israelis treat them... |
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Harris Brio
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| obmar wrote: | One day someone will rise
and ask
if circumscice is such a big issue
is there anything on it in the Holy Books.
is there, Harry? |
It's an Abrahamic tradition... |
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obmar
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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so the christians
are no longer followers of that tradition? |
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Radiate_Truth
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| obmar wrote: | so the christians
are no longer followers of that tradition? |
More of a medical practice...
Done in a hospital within a few days of the birth of a male child.
That's in the civilized world.
Religion not involved.
You don't even stay in the hospital for any lengthy time any more.
To have a baby, you give birth to it in the hospital, go home the next day.
After I decided I didn't want any more children...
Went in the hospital early that morning to have my tubes burned, scar'd to cause blockage, by noon time I was up and about on my way home from the hospital.
Minor surgery is done on an out-patient basis. Go in that morning, out by lunch. |
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Radiate_Truth
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| obmar wrote: | One day someone will rise
and ask
if circumscice is such a big issue
is there anything on it in the Holy Books.
is there, Harry? |
"What does the Bible say about circumcision? What is the Christian view of circumcision?"
Answer: There are different issues that are wrapped up in the question of whether males should be circumcised or not. One issue is that of religious teaching: what does the Bible, God’s Word, say? Another issue is: as a matter of health, should males be circumcised?
Concerning the first issue, since we are no longer under the Old Testament Law as Christians, circumcision is no longer required. This is brought out in a number of New Testament passages, among which are the following: Acts 15; Galatians 2:1-3; 5:1-11; 6:11-16; 1 Corinthians 7:17-20; Colossians 2:8-12; Philippians 3:1-3. As these passages bring out, being saved from our sins is received through trusting in Christ to save us from our sins, and it is this act of turning from our sin and self-righteousness and turning instead to reliance upon Christ’s finished work on the cross that makes us “circumcised of heart” and that the works of the flesh accomplish nothing.
In Acts 16:3, Paul had a missionary helper, Timothy, circumcised so that his being uncircumcised would not be a hindrance to them as they sought to reach out to the unsaved Jews on their missionary journeys. Thus, although the Bible gives Gentile (non-Jewish) believers the liberty of not being circumcised, it was a liberty that Timothy was willing to give up for the sake of reaching out to unsaved Jews. However, as the passages in Galatians bring out, Paul refused to compromise the issue with those who said that one must be circumcised in order to be either saved or sanctified in Christ.
There are practical issues involved with circumcision as well. Some parents have their sons circumcised so that they will look like all the other males in their culture. Some parents are concerned that their son would someday be in a locker room and find themselves different from everyone else. In some cultures, though, males are not commonly circumcised. There is also the issue of health. Doctors debate back and forth in regard to whether there are any health benefits to circumcision. Any couple with such concerns should definitely speak with a doctor in regards to this issue.
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Harris Brio
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| obmar wrote: | so the christians
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Were they ever... |
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Radiate_Truth
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| Harris Brio wrote: | | obmar wrote: | so the christians
are no longer followers of that tradition? |
Were they ever... |
Just cause you don't know about it, doesn't mean they aren't.
Some people can write a big book on what they think they know...
Can I imagine what your's would look like.
How about "The Little Engine That Could", volume, thickness... |
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Harris Brio
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| Radiate_Truth wrote: | | How about "The Little Engine That Could", volume, thickness... |
I see you are familiar with the fact that I am very well endowed, and know how to use it...
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Does the Koran really promise Islamic martyrs 72 virgins?
